Super Frustrating Face Makeup Conundrum!

[CassieLeighMember]

Hi Ladies and handful of Gents,

I’m having a really frustrating problem with my face makeup the last few weeks and I’ve tried lots of variations.

In the mornings, my foundation, concealer, blush and etc all look great – normal. But come around 1:00 or 2:00 in the afternoon and the center of my face, around my eyes, nose and cheeks, my makeup looks awful! It’s clear I’m wearing it. My pores stand out, the delicate lines around my eyes are exaggerated and it looks cakey. I’ll basically just buff those areas with tissue to clean it up a bit but this shouldn’t happen.

I’ve tried using primer and no primer, liquid foundation, mineral foundation etc. and I still cant figure out how to prevent this.

Please give me your best suggestion, I’m willing to try anything.

Thanks,
Cassieleigh

[TurboweevelMember]

It sounds like you have oily skin. If I were you I’d invest in blotting sheets (you can get them at the drugstore) and reconsider my skincare routine. I used to have oily combo skin and it has improved greatly since I started using a cleanser without harsh surfactants in it. For a while I used LUSH’s Ultrabland which worked very well. My skin improved greatly. Unfortunately I didn’t like the smell and it felt a bit too thick when I was putting it on so I started making my own. Give it a try, though, you might be pleasantly surprised.

[CassieLeighMember]

I can’t believe it. I always thought my skin type was normal to slight combination – after all, anyone will get sweaty and shiny some times. But holy cannoli!

I tried your blotting sheet suggestion – I always keep them on hand for some reason, and it was truly disgusting – but in a very satisfying way! When I finished moping up so to speak, my make up did look better. Thanks for the suggestion.

I’m going to investigate better cleansers tonight. I think I’ve got a mineral one that should suffice for now.

Thanks I really, really mean it!

[TurboweevelMember]

You’re welcome, I’m glad I was able to help You should consider giving something like the Oil Cleansing Method a try. Basically you want to combine castor oil, which is extremely heavy and thick but very cleansing, with a nice light and dry oil and then you clean your face at night with it and it’ll keep your skin fed all night.

Here are a few suggestions:

Apricot kernel oil – anti-inflammatory, anti-itching, supports barrier repair. Also has vitamin E which is softening, moisturizing and provides some free-radical scavenging, i.e. protects your skin from free-radical damage caused by cellular respiration.

Fractionated coconut oil – very light oil, very softening and moisturizing, penetrates skin nicely. It’s very important to make sure it’s fractionated oil because the whole oil is extremely comedogenic and acnegenic.

Grapeseed oil – Very short shelf life (3 to 6 months) but is very anti-oxidant and anti-inflammatory.

Hazelnut oil – has lots of squalane, which is found naturally on the skin. Feels dry because of the high concentration of tannins. Lots of vitamin E so very moisturizing, softening and anti-oxidant. Also anti-inflammatory, anti-itch and anti-dry skin. Long shelf life.

Jojoba oil – Use in quantities no larger than 25% of your oil blend. Non-comedogenic and non-allergenic and has anti-oxidant and astringent properties. Softens skin and can soothe very dry skin.

Sunflower oil – Easy to get, use as much as you want, considered non comedogenic. Rich in vitamin E.

The reason I suggest the oil cleansing method is because a lot of cleanser are very harsh on the skin, stripping it of not just dirt but also the oils that cover it and protect it. There’s a good reason why our skin coats itself in sebum and it’s to keep itself lubricated and to protect it. When you remove that layer the skin interprets that as being in a harsh environment and just puts out more oil. Ever since I started making my own oil based cleanser (I use safflower oil because it has lots of vitamin E and is very easy to get. I also have some beeswax in there to improve cleansing performance and give it a bit more structure and glycerine to draw water into my skin) my skin improved greatly. It’s very smooth and clear and I don’t get nearly as shiny as I used to. In fact, I don’t even wear liquid foundation these days, I find a layer of powder to be quite enough. Give the oil cleansing method a try because I think it might help balance your skin out a little bit.

[megz196Member]

I have been having the exact same problem, though it’s pretty much isolated to my T-zone… So frustrating! I know people wouldn’t notice unless they were right up in my face, but I notice and I hate it (especially the makeup separation where I’m getting fine lines… Very depressing, especially since without makeup on they aren’t very noticeable at all)… I guess I should give the oil cleansing method a shot, is there a link to the website that has the recipes on it (I’ve seen it before on this forum)? Also, are you meant to use moisturizer after cleansing this way or is the oil enough in itself?

[TurboweevelMember]

The oil isn’t enough because there is no occlusive ingredient that’ll prevent trans-epidermal water loss (TEWL). Currently the FDA has approved three ingredients for that purpose: Allantoin, Cocoa butter (don’t put that on your face, it’s very comedogenic and acnegenic) and dimethicone (which is very common in skincare). Furthermore an oil blend has only emollient properties, not humectant, so you need something to draw water into the skin (glycerine’s a favorite). Generally when I wash my face with my cleanser afterwards I put a few drops of argan oil on my skin followed by a regular moisturizer (I like h2oplus face oasis but other will work fine too). I do this every day, mornings and evenings, but you might want to try it one evening first to see how your skin deals with it.

Some suggestions for the ratio of oils (taken from http://www.theoilcleansingmethod.com/ )
Oily Skin: Try a blend of 30% Castor Oil to 70% Sunflower Seed Oil.
Balanced Skin: Try a blend of 20% Castor Oil to 80% Sunflower Seed Oil.
Dry Skin: Try a blend of 10% Castor Oil to 90% Sunflower Seed Oil.

You don’t have to use sunflower seed oil, you can pick any other oil you want though in my previous post i mentioned that it’s light, non comedogenic and easy to get. But if you have other concerns like inflammation there are better choices. I like safflower oil a lot too. You can always add vitamin E to your oils (1% is quite enough) if you want to improve shelf life and make it more anti-oxidant.

[thelivingdollMember]

try using makeups specifically made for oily skin

[ssh1958Member]

The oil cleanse is AMAZING (so much was left after removing and then washing in my ‘normal’ way) and the softness and glow that it leaves is wonderful.

I’m mixing castor, grapeseed and a tiny bit of argon… this was the greatest tip!!!!!!

[TurboweevelMember]

Grapeseed is great but if you want to make a mix and keep it in a bottle make sure to add some vitamin E to it or it’ll go rancid really fast!

[thelivingdollMember]

how many times a week do you do oil cleanse method?

[ssh1958Member]

I use it everyday – but it’s more to remove the Colorstay/SFF (using baby wipes to remove all the gunk). I then follow with my regular cleanser, treatment and moisturizer. I guess I’m using it more as a remover than a cleanser…but there is a noticeable difference in my skin – perhaps because I am actually getting the makeup off my face before using products (they can get to my skin). I am noticing I need less product to get the same effect.

Additionally, I am using the same mix (castor, grapeseed, argon and E) in a tub with a lot of regular granulated white sugar, making it fairly dry not gooey, as a body scrub everyday (this I then rinse off and then pat dry) – I’m “soft and smooth” head to toe.

[TurboweevelMember]

I use it every day. In the mornings I use it in the shower with one of these http://www.sephora.com/precision-pore-cleansing-pad-P262041?skuId=1233691 to add a bit of scrub because I don’t really like normal scrubs (they feel like glass to me). It removes makeup very well too, especially lipstick swatches.

[Kerry AdamsMember]

Argan Oil is a nutty oil that is heavier than other carrier oils such as grape-seed, apricot kernel or sesame seed oils. A little bit can go a long way. You only need a few drops on the tips of your fingers to apply to your face or just a few in the palm of your hand for a body massage. Given the oils unique properties it absorbs easily into the skin. It is not a dry oil so do apply it sparingly.

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